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VATICAN WITHOUT COMMENT

by Barry Chamish

23 Nov 2005

While reading, listen to my Vatican interview on Tamar Yonah's show
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=93466

From this point on, not a comment from me:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=91526
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C13509-1823149%2C00.html
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/642171.html

Report: Israel to hand control of Jerusalem holy site
to Vatican
Haaretz November 6, 2005
By Amiram Barkat
Israel is to give the Vatican control over one of the
most sacred Christian sites in Jerusalem, several
European newspapers have reported recently. According
to the reports, Israel will give the Holy See
possession of the Coenaculum, or the Room of the Last
Supper (also known as the Upper Room or the Cenacle),
on Mount Zion.

Rabbi Rosen invested as Papal knight

THE JERUSALEM POST Nov. 3, 2005

Rabbi David Rosen, the American Jewish Committee's international director of interreligious affairs on Thursday became the first Israeli citizen, the first Orthodox rabbi and the fifth living Jew to be invested with a papal knighthood.
Rosen received the decoration and citation attesting to his new status as a Knight Commander of the Pontifical Order of St Gregory the Great at a ceremony hosted at the Notre Dame of Jerusalem Center by the Apostolic Delegate in Jerusalem and Palestine and the Apostolic Nuncio in Israel Archbishop Pietro Sambi.
The investiture was conducted by Cardinal Walter Kasper, President of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with Jewry. The ceremony coincided with the 40th anniversary celebrations in Israel of Nostra Aetate, the ground-breaking Vatican II document that paved the way for mutual respect and dialogue between the Catholic Church and the Jews.
Kasper credited Rosen with being a moving force in the realization and implementation of the spirit of Nostra Aetate.
Noting that Rosen is active in many fields, Kasper who has known him and worked with him for several years said: "One meets him everywhere that this dialogue is going on - and he keeps the dialogue going on."
He first met Rosen, Kasper recalled, as a Jewish partner in dialogue. He found Rosen to be frank, free and outspoken, saying what pleased him about the Christians and also what didn't please him.
Kasper characterized Rosen as "a fair partner who wants to understand Christianity" and struggles to overcome misunderstandings and slander. He described Rosen as a man of peace and dialogue who builds bridges.
One of the most positive developments of the last half century said Kasper is that Jews and Christians have found a way to gather. "It is a sign of hope and reconciliation, friendship and mutual understanding."
Kasper made a point of emphasizing that in his work for reconciliation and peace, Rosen is not a man of compromise, but acts from the depth of his Jewish faith.
Because Jews and Christians are both children of Abraham who received a promise to be a blessing for all people said Kasper, "We have a universal dimension in sanctifying the name of God. In this secular world in which we live, there is a danger of forgetting the name of God."
In response, the powerfully articulate Rosen said that he was not usually at a loss for words, nor he admitted was he a particularly modest individual, but after hearing what Kasper had said about him, he felt rather inadequate.
In his quest for reconciliation he said, he had remained loyal to his people, his faith and his tradition. His aim in life was to reach out and build bridges of understanding and thus make the world a better place, said Rosen.
A former Chief Rabbi of Ireland, Rosen confessed that when he brought his family to live in Israel 21 years ago, he thought that he had said goodbye to pomp and circumstance and had no idea what providence had in store for him.
"I'm an extremely lucky beneficiary of timing," he said, observing that he had been at the right place at times of historic opportunity.
Rosen who was on the team that negotiated diplomatic relations between Israel and the Vatican was pleased to see among the witnesses to his honor Shmuel Hadass, who was Israel's first ambassador to the Vatican.
He also paid tribute to Zvi Werblovsky whom he lauded as an Israeli pioneer in the field of Jewish-Christian dialogue. "I see myself as a spiritual son of his in this endeavor," said Rosen, who in a post ceremonial conversation, said that Werblovsky should have been given a papal knighthood years ago.
It was a most rewarding day for Rosen and his family. From Notre Dame he continued on to Dormition Abbey, where at another ceremony hosted by Abbot Benedikt Lindemann of the Benedictine Abbey Hagia Maria Sion he was presented with the Mount Zion Foundation's Award for Interreligious Understanding in recognition for his contribution to Jewish-Christian reconciliation, understanding and cooperation.
The Mount Zion award is presented biannually to individuals and institutions that have made outstanding contributions to the enhancement of dialogue between the different religions and cultures of the Holy Land.

Nostra Aetate:
Origins,Promulgation,
Impact on Catholic-Jewish Relations
Jerusalem, 30 October 1 November,2005
The Center for the Study of Christianity at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, in conjunction with the John XXIII Foundation for Religious Studies in Bologna, will hold a scholarly Conference in Jerusalem on the above to mark the 40th Anniversary of the Conciliar Declaration Nostra Aetate, which was a watershed in Catholic-Jewish relations.
The first day of the Conference will be devoted mainly to Nostra Aetate and its origins and the second day to its various impacts since 1965. Participants will review the state of research on the document, make their own contribution thereto and attempt a critical assessment of Catholic-Jewish relations over the past forty years.
It will be attended by leading scholars actively engaged in these areas from Israel, Italy, Germany France, Belgium, Russia and the United States. Prominent figures, who are personally involved in the Jewish-Catholic Dialogue
headed by HE Cardinal Walter Kasper, President of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity and Rabbi David Rosen, President of IJCIC will also take part.

http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=79309

Holy See Address on Plight of Palestinian Christians

Moreover, of ongoing concern is the security wall which cuts access to some Palestinians' lands and water sources, as well as to employment, commerce, education, medical care and freedom of worship. My delegation freely acknowledges the right of all peoples to live in peace and security; on the other hand, we believe that the Holy Land is in greater need of bridges than of walls.

In the hope that the many problems of the region will be resolved by negotiation and dialogue, my delegation underlines that a lasting solution will include the question of the Holy City of Jerusalem. In light of the numerous incidents of violence and the challenge to free movement posed by the security wall, the Holy See renews its support for "internationally Guaranteed Issue Health Insurance provisions to ensure the freedom of religion and of conscience of its inhabitants, as well as permanent, free and unhindered access to the holy places by the faithful of all religions and nationalities"

Jerusalem is the acknowledged home of the three Abrahamic faiths, and whoever has custody of the Holy City has a particular responsibility for it before the international community. Borrowing the recent words of Pope Benedict XVI, we hope that Jerusalem will one day be "a home of harmony and peace" for all believers.

The time is long overdue for fraternal, open dialogue in order to bring about the birth of two states, side by side, mutually respecting each other's right to exist and prosper. There have already been far too many innocent victims, be they Israeli or Palestinian, Jews, Christians and Moslems alike. Only with a just and lasting peace -- not imposed, but secured through negotiation -- will the legitimate aspirations of all the peoples of the Holy Land be fulfilled.
They are pleading John Paul's II and Arafat's Feb. 15, 2000 Covenant
http://www.templemountfaithful.org/arafat-pope.htm
A Covenant Between the Pope and PLO Leader Yasser Arafat
On 15th February, 2000 at the Vatican, the Pope and the leader of the PLO terrorist organisation, Yasser Arafat, signed a covenant against the G-d and people of Israel and Jerusalem.

According to this agreement, Jerusalem should be an international city based on international resolutions and an international guarantee. (The UN decided on more than one occasion that Jerusalem should be an international city.) They also decided that any step or activity taken by Israel to change this position of Jerusalem is against the law. The agreement also recognizes a "Palestinian" state in the land of Israel and agrees on cooperation between the Vatican and the PLO and the Vatican committed itself to assist the so-called "Palestinians".

Authorities in the Vatican explained: "the agreement paves the way for establishment of full diplomatic relations with a Palestinian state when it is founded". The PLO representative in the Vatican stated: "This is an historical covenant.

The Wording below is from the Illuminati Plan:
"Moslem and Jewish areas in Jerusalem will be combined with Christian to create the New Jerusalem Covenant. Then, and only then, will it be possible to build a combination Temple/Church/Mosque in Jerusalem."
"At the proper moment in history, the Pope will visit the combined Jewish/Christian/Moslem sector of Jerusalem to announce that all religions should be combined into one. This action will then finally break the Middle East logjam." (Ibid.)

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/616793.html

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has urged Pope Benedict XVI to visit the Palestinian people, according to an Italian religious affairs magazine.

Monthly magazine 30 Giorni said in a promotion of an interview with Abbas that he extended the invitation "to visit the Palestinian people in Palestine," Italian news reports said.

Abbas was quoted as urging Benedict to "use all his weight and the spiritual and moral importance of the Catholic Church to put an end to the suffering of the Palestinian people and to guarantee their legitimate right to create an independent state with East Jerusalem as its capital."


POPE INVITES HIS FAVORITE MIDDLE-EASTERNER TO VATICAN

19:06 According to Italian sources, Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen)( Holocaust Denier) is expected to meet soon with Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican. (Guysen.Israël.News)

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=1809

Israel's Wrong Turn: Europe to Guard Border
Monday, November 7, 2005

The Gaza Strip border crossing with Egypt must be looked after, but Israel has been pressured to turn the job over to the EU. What might the consequences be?

Israel announced on Tuesday that the EU will send inspectors ?with real powers? to monitor the Rafah border crossing between the Palestinian-controlled Gaza Strip and Egypt.

The European Union has hit paydirt. After more than 10 years of struggling with America to gain control of the Middle East peace process, the EU and the Vatican are one step closer to realizing their Middle East ambitions.
http://newsfromrussia.com/world/2005/11/02/66840.html

Spain's foreign minister on Wednesday said Spain was studying the possibility of helping police the border separating Egypt from Gaza.

Israel's cabinet on Tuesday approved the deployment of European inspectors on that frontier following its pullout from Gaza. Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos told a news conference that Spain was willing to support an international effort to promote peace in the region. Ariel Sharon Takes Long Path From Settlement Builder to Settlement Dismantler

Ariel Sharon's transformation from settlement builder to settlement dismantler was sealed in a secret meeting with U.S. envoys in Rome in November 2003, when the Israeli prime minister revealed his plan to give up the Gaza Strip and parts of the West Bank by the end of 2005.

For four decades, Sharon had been the main force behind Israeli settlement construction in lands claimed by the Palestinians for their state. In that Rome hotel room, two of his aides say, he became the first Israeli leader to set a clear deadline for dismantling some of them.

http://abcnews.go.com/International...tory?id=1031800

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Please investigate these disturbing facts that suggest that the conspiracy against Rabin may be ongoing and may have claimed more lives:
The assassination of Rabin is linked to the assassinations of Meir Kahane (November 5, 1990), JDL leader Irv Rubin (November 4, 2003), and JDL activist and Rubin associate Earl Krugel (November 4, 2005) by a "coincidence" of dates that could not possibly be pure coincidence. Rabin of course was murdered on Nov. 4, 1995 (exactly ten years before the Krugel murder, and exactly five years after the Kahane murder). Four Jewish leaders could not possibly have just happened to have been murdered on the same calendar date within a space of only fifteen years.
Irv Rubin, the leader of the Jewish Defense League, supposedly "committed suicide" in a United States Federal prison by first cutting his own throat, then running thirteen yards, and finally jumping off a balustrade to his death--surely the most athletic suicide in history! This happened on November 4, 2003--eight years to the day after the Rabin assassination.
Rubin's fellow JDL activist, Earl Krugel, who was imprisoned on the same charges as Rubin, was murdered in prison on November 4, 2005--exactly ten years to the day after the assassination of Rabin.
If the assassination of Rabin has been covered up, those of Rubin and Krugel have never been exposed to public view in the first place! But the assassins certainly used the date November 4 as their calling card.
Earl Krugel pleaded guilty to conspiracy and received a 20-year sentence. Irv Rubin was murdered before his case came to trial. Neither man received a death sentence or deserved to be murdered in jail. Please try to get justice for these two men, whose murders are plainly connected to that of Yitzhak Rabin.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3125444,00.html

Mehadrin to earn NIS 32.5m profit sale of land in Ashkelon

Mehadrin chairman Yonatan Basi is director of the SELA Administration for disengagement from the Gaza Strip and northern Samaria.

Roy Meltzer 31 Oct 05 16:53

Real estate company Mehadrin (TASE: MEDN) is about to reap a big profit from the removal of Jews from the Gush Katif communities from the Gaza Strip under the disengagement plan. The company announced today that it had signed an agreement with the Israel Land Administration (ILA) giving the latter a free nine-month option to buy 1,300 dunam (325 acres) in northern Ashekelon.

The exercise price for the option is NIS 46,410 per dunam (NIS 185,640 per acre), making the total exercise price for the land NIS 60 million. If the ILA exercises the option, Mehadrin will post a one-time net after-tax capital gain of NIS 25,000 per acre, making its total profit on the deal NIS 32.5 million.

For the past six months, Mehadrin chairman Yonatan Basi has been director of the SELA Administration, the special administration established in the Prime Ministers Office for handling Jews removed from the Gaza Strip and northern Samaria. IDB Holding Corp. (TASE: IDBH) subsidiary Hadarim Properties (TASE: HAPR) (37.1%) and Israel Phoenix Assurance (TASE: PHOE1;PHOE5) (33.1%) control Mehadrin. The latters market cap is $57 million, following a 57.1% surge in its share this year.
Published by Globes [online] - www.globes.co.il - on October 31, 2005


IsraelNN.com) Knesset Member Aryeh Eldad (National Union) said this evening that right-wing activist Itamar Ben-Gvir, known for his affiliations with Kahanist organizations, is actually an agent of the General Security Services (GSS). Eldad claims that Ben-Gvir was sent by the GSS to the Maoz HaYam hotel area in order to stir up the emotions and cause provocations.
MK Eldad made the charges on Channel Two\'s Mishal Cham interview program.

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=87560

Seeking Solution, Shin Bet Offers Ben-G'vir Rent-Free Apartment
16:04 Aug 11, '05 / 6 Av 5765

(IsraelNN.com) Seeking to vacate the Kiryat Arba apartment of Miriam and Yaron Adler, the Shin Bet has offered former Kach activist Itamar Ben-G'vir and his wife a rent-free apartment.

One of the reasons the Adlers cannot or will not accept an administrative detention order to leave Sa-Nur is because they cannot move back into their Kiryat Arba home since the Ben-G'virs are renting the apartment.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=87576
Protests over Burg's Plan to Eat 'Festive Meal' on Ninth of Av Fast Day
18:59 Aug 11, '05 / 6 Av 5765
(IsraelNN.com) Rabbis and public leaders are furious over a statement by
former Labor Knesset Member Avraham Burg that he will eat a festive meal
Sunday afternoon, the Ninth of Av. Many secular as well as observant Jews
observe a 24 hour fast from sundown Saturday in memory of the destruction
of the ancient First and Second Temples.
Burg, a vocal supporter of the expulsion plan, said on an Israeli radio
program that a festive meal would mark what he termed Israel's nearing
control over its destiny following the planned expulsion of Jews from Gaza
and northern Samaria.
Burg's father, Yosef Burg, was leader of the National Religious Party, but
his son identifies with the Conservative movement. Shas Sephardic party
leader MK Eli Yishai said that Burg's comments rep

Dear Barry,
It's interesting that they picked the day after Tisha B'Av for the disengagement, since according to Sabbatian tradition, Tisha B'Av is Shabbatai Zvi's birthday.
The disengagement efforts began in 2004 which was the 360th birthday of Nathan of Gaza. There may be a Sabbatian implication in this since the number 360 is important in gnostic systems (cyclical concepts). So 360 years after their prophet of Gaza's birth Gaza is given to Yishmael (the Arabs).

How The Zabbateans
Will Destroy Israel

By Jack Manuelian
6-9-5
When the Zabbatean Zionists created the modern state of Israel they also made plans for the creation of an anti-Israel "force" in the Middle East that would be used to destroy their experiment of modern Israel. The Zabbatean Zionists would be both the creators and indirect destroyers of the state of Israel. Nowadays inner Zabbatean Zionists are activating the "self-destruction" mechanism of modern Israel; their plan is to bring a Turkish muslim dictator as a ruler of Turkey, a Muslim Hitler-like destroyer, a Turkish Bin Laden who will unite the various factions in Turkey and lead them to the old glory they once knew. Presently the invisible rulers of Turkey are not real Turks but rather infiltrated secular "Turks" who are the secret followers of the anti-Mohammed and anti-Christ prophet Zabbatai Zevi, who was the founder of the Turkish Donmeh Zabbatean sect and of the Zabbataean movement in general.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/pr...0727&ID=4996459

Tony Blair, the British prime minister, welcomed a Spanish proposal to create an "Alliance of civilizations" between Western and Muslim countries in the fight against terror in a meeting with Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, his Spanish counterpart, on Wednesday.

Mr Blair, who also held talks on Wednesday with RecepTayyip Erdogan, the Turkish prime minister, said that Turkey is particularly involved in this initiative.

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The book originally called "Frank and the Polish Frankist Followers" by Alexander Kraushar, Poland 1895.
Here is a clip:
...the best banking houses in Frankfurt hurried to voice their readiness to serve them [the Frank family]
Even the Frankfurt Rothschilds must be included in the list of believers, as Mr. Schenk-Rinck records in the second part of his treatise Die Polen in Offenbach.(5)

WHO WAS WINSTON CHURCHILL?
The essential fact about Winston Churchill is that his mother's father was Leonard Jerome (formerly Jacobson, 1818-1891) a speculator and business partner of August Belmont (nee Shoenberg 1813-1890), who was Rothschild's main American representative.
Jennie Jerome's marriage to Randolph Churchill, the second son of the Duke of Marlborough appears to have been a marriage of convenience, typical of many unions between spendthrift English aristocrats and daughters of Jewish financiers.

http://www.porges.net/Frankists.html

Rabbi Antelman, leader of the newly restored Sanhedrin, writes about the Sabbatean/Frankists in his important book "To Eliminate the Opiate" that is so difficult to find these days.
Some chapters of Volume I are posted here:
http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/eliminateopiate1_8.html
http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/eliminateopiate1ch10.html
http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/eliminateopiate1_11.html

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