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August 26 - Yigal Amir Interrogation Tape Uncovered
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August 26, 2001 - Yigal Amir INTERROGATION TAPE UNCOVERED

Three evenings ago, I gave a lecture on the Yitzhak Rabin assassination in
Netanya. Once the presentation was completed, a handsome woman named Rachel
Friedman approached me. "My sister, brother-in-law and their three children
were murdered in the pizzeria explosion in Jerusalem," she said. "The very
last thing I said to my brother-in-law was that I'm coming tonight to hear
you. And the last thing he told me was, 'The violence against us is being
run by the same people who started the Holocaust. Maybe Yitzhak Rabin's murder will
lead us to them.' He was from Holland and knew things Israelis don't. He
was blown up a few moments later.
     "I told Israeli tv news what he said and it was censored. The big
story the next day was about an Arab killed in a retaliatory action. My
family was almost wiped out and Sharon knocked down a few buildings in
their memory. And the media thought an Arab killed in one of the buildings
was more important than my brother-in-law's last thoughts."
    Yesterday, five more Israelis were murdered. A husband and wife were
slain before their infant children on the Modiin-Jerusalem road, a mile
from my home. And Sharon knocked down some buildings to commemorate the
slayings. Meanwhile, he is sending Shimon Peres to Germany to arrange the
continuation of the slaughter until the NATO troops take over the region.
     If you want to know what Israel is in for tomorrow, watch Macedonia
today. It's the same plan. The New World Order leaders arm a gang of Moslem
dissidents and they murder and maim and massacre until the world army comes
in to douse the flames its commanders lit in the first place. Arafat is
just doing what he's told, like any good dissident Moslem leader.
     I told Rachel that her brother-in-law's last words were pure truth
from G-d's heart to his mouth. I added that for years I've been saying the
only way to save our people is by exposing the Yitzhak Rabin assassination. The
truth will lead from Gillon to Shimon Peres to those Europeans enflaming our
region. Of all the innumerable crimes against the Jews since the Oslo
Accord, the only one Israelis will never forget is Yitzhak Rabin's murder. It is
the key to our salvation.
      Two days later I received the most dramatic piece of evidence seen in
years. A dogged writer, well known and oft-seen on Israeli television,
phoned me and insisted we meet. He drove to my home with his wife. He
brought a tape with him as well as vital information we had both been
seeking for years.
      For those who follow my writing, recall the article They're Talking,
in which two Shabak agents informed me of some of their service branch's
most hidden secrets. I was informed that one of Yitzhak Rabin's bodyguards, named
Tzvi, was murdered on the assassination night and buried quickly in
Jerusalem. Until then I knew the name of another Shabak officer murdered in
the aftermath of the Yitzhak Rabin assassination. It was Yoav Kuriel and he was
buried in a closed ceremony ten days later. I asked the informers to give
Tzvi's last name but they couldn't or wouldn't recall it.
     My guest helped me out: "The bodyguard's name was Tzvi Forster. He was
buried by an undertaker named Friedman in Givat Shaul Cemetary in Jerusalem."
     Then he offered to show me three films he had acquired. They were the
police interrogations of Yigal Amir.
"And not the phoney-baloney staged interrogation they showed on Channel Two
last year; The real ones."
      I will transcribe all three interrogations in time, but let us begin
with the interrogation of Yigal Amir on Dec. 3/95. Earlier that day Yigal Amir
had a hearing, covered by the media. He entered the courtroom and yelled to
the cameras and over a million people watching, "Why aren't you
investigating Yitzhak Rabin's murdered bodyguard? The people will forgive me when
they know the background. After you understand why, you'll see the whole
system is rotten. Everything you see is fabricated. I didn't think they'd
start killing people."
     Then at his hearing, he told Judge Dan Arbel, "They're killing people,
it's all a lie?"
     "What's a lie?" asked Arbel.
     "That I killed Yitzhak Rabin," answered Yigal Amir. "I didn't even try to kill him.
What you've seen up til now has been a facade. I request to be allowed to
explain the background to my actions. They're killing people. If you listen
to the truth, the whole country will be up in arms."
      Needless to say, Judge Arbel did not give Yigal Amir a chance to explain
himself and he was taken back to his lockup. The following interrogation
took place later that nearly fateful day when Yigal Amir was about to tell the
court the truth. The interrogators are two nervous, almost desperate
policemen Yoav Gazit and Ofir Gamliel.
      While reading the transcript, never forget that the Israeli media has
spread a lie that Yigal Amir confessed to the murder to the police and that's
all. This transcript proves that was not the case. Yigal Amir still wants to tell
the truth but, clearly, he doesn't trust the intentions of the interrogators.
      A decision was made to present the whole interrogation transcript.
While that will slow and greatly lengthen the reading and often confuse the
reader, the main consideration is authenticity, both of the atmosphere of
the interrogation and the fact that I have acquired such damning evidence.
     To reduce confusion, I will add commentary beginning and ending with
three stars ***.

                  447/95 Serious Crimes Division, Israel Police; Transcript
of conversation
                  of 3/12/95  between the murder suspect of Prime Minister
Yitzhak Rabin, Yigal Amir, and
                  two investigators, Sergeant Ofir Gamliel and Inspector
Yoav Gazit.

Gazit: Let's finish the investigation. Let's clean up the whole story.
Yigal Amir:  I gave you the phone so give it back.
Gazit: Here it is. This is the starting point. As soon as things are
cleared up you can meet your parents. I want to start with a point you made
and, look, I'm not writing anything down. You can talk freely. I want to
nail down an issue you stated in Yoni's report...

***Officer Yoni Hirshorn was Yigal Amir's first interrogator."***

Gazit: Everyone heard what you said in the courtroom today. I want to know
what you meant by it. I'm hearing bits and pieces in the media but don't
have the true picture. I asked Yoni to write a summary of your claims. Tell
me what you meant by them. Were they real or not?

Yigal Amir: Now I'll talk.

Gazit: You said that what we've seen so far has been a facade and you asked
the court to let you explain the background to your actions. 'They're
killing people, if you listen to the truth there will be a revolution in
the country,' you said. Wasn't that a bit bombastic?

Yigal Amir: They didn't let me tell what I could have.

Gazit: So tell me, I won't write anything down, what did you mean? Is it a
theory or not? I don't know.

Yigal Amir: They're killing people. I heard about the dead bodyguard from my
lawyer and from my interrogators.

***The Shabak agent, Yoav Kuriel was buried two weeks before and there were
publicized suspicions of foul play. In the end. the police and media
insisted that he committed suicide because he was depressed about the Yitzhak Rabin
murder. Within a year, I spoke with one of Kuriel's burial team. He
informed me that Kuriel had seven bullets in his chest. A persistent
suicide it was. When Yigal Amir shouted to the cameras that the media was
covering up the murder of a bodyguard, he reopened the wound and the police
wanted to determine what he knows. Yigal Amir answers that his lawyer and other
policemen told him about Kuriel. Gazit sees this line is going nowhere so
far and switches topics.***

Gazit: Tell me briefly what you know about Itamar Ben Gvir.

Yigal Amir: That's what I heard in the bus, that he was going to murder the prime
minister.

Gazit: Did you meet him personally?

Yigal Amir: No.

Gazit: Itamar was the one who put the sticker on the prime minister's car.
He's an extremist. Did you ever meet him?

Yigal Amir: No, I just saw him.

***Itamar Ben Gvir is a highly publicized member of Kach. There are
widespread suspicions that he is a Shabak agent. What fueled said
suspicions amongst many people was an incident a few years back when he
threatened to murder Sinead O'Connor and her band if they showed up for
their scheduled Jerusalem performance. The show was cancelled, leading to
great resentment among the country's Left and youth towards right wing
settlers like Ben Gvir. And what was Ben Gvir's punishment for his death
threats? Nothing. He wasn't even questioned by the police. A month before
Yitzhak Rabin's murder, Ben Gvir put a sticker on his car reading, 'We got to
Yitzhak Rabin's car, next we'll get to him." Yigal Amir is claiming he heard a rumor on a
bus that Ben Gvir was planning to murder Yitzhak Rabin that night. The plot
thickens.***

Gazit: Ben Gvir is in Kach. And the one who told you about him was a Likud
Youth member from Raanana.

Yigal Amir: I don't want to say.

Gazit: You already said it. What you mean is you don't want to say who he
was. You gave him a first name and I don't even remember it. Fine, you
heard a theory and your lawyer told you a bodyguard was dead too. So what's
your take on all this? Briefly, what do you make of it all? If you don't
feel like answering, that's fine with me too.

Yigal Amir: Do you swear?

Gazit: Enough already.

Yigal Amir: Alright.

Gazit: I just want to clear up what you said, what is true and what isn't.

Yigal Amir: Aaah.

Gazit: Nu, tell me already, briefly.

Yigal Amir: I'll tell.

Gazit: What did you mean when you were so bombastic in court.

Yigal Amir: I had to be. They wouldn't let me talk.

Gazit: Who knows what they thought.

Yigal Amir: I don't care.

Gazit: I am speaking as your investigator and I don't understand my case. I
have to follow up on things said in the media and the courtroom and I don't
get it.

Yigal Amir: You're my investigator, not my father.

Gazit: That depends. I never said I was your father and you don't have to
confide in me. I never asked for names of people.

Yigal Amir: You'll hear me in court.

Gazit: I'll tell you, from what you said in court this morning I can
surmise that you think one of the bodyguards died, true?

Yigal Amir: Yes.

Gazit: You said an attorney told you? Who is he? What's his name?

Yigal Amir: The one who came to me.

Gazit: That's not enough and you know it. We're not children here. I want
to know where you heard this theory. See, I'm not writing down a word.

Yigal Amir: It was nothing. I just threw out some theories.

Gazit: That's not what you said before.

Yigal Amir: Okay.

Gazit: I spoke with your brother before you as you saw. I asked what you
meant in court today.

Yigal Amir: You'll both know later in court.

Gazit: You said you were on a bus to the rally, right. There was a guy...

Yigal Amir: I won't give his name. He told me that Itamar Ben Gvir was going to
murder Yitzhak Rabin.

Gazit. You said you were told Ben Gvir intended to murder Yitzhak Rabin?

Yigal Amir: Yes.

Gazit: And you said you heard from people that Avishai Raviv was a Shabak
agent. And that Avishai is friends with Itamar Ben Gvir, true?  That's what
you said and now you're being wishy-washy. Are you finished with your words?

Yigal Amir: Yes.

***Yigal Amir connects Avishai Raviv to the Yitzhak Rabin murder. He, correctly
identifies him as a Shabak agent. He connects Ben Gvir to Raviv and implies
that he was a Shabak agent as well. And he insists that word was out that
Ben Gvir was out to murder Yitzhak Rabin that night. Far from confessing to Yitzhak Rabin's
murder, Yigal Amir is trying to make sense of it. He has obviously drawn some
strong conclusions from the knowledge he possesses. Now look at the
implications of Yigal Amir's conclusions.***

Gazit: I can see you're tired. Stretch out while I carry on. Now tell me,
true or not, is this what you believe? The top ranks of government,
specifically Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres, planned a fake assassination by a right
winger after the rally and that Ben Gvir was supposed to be the shooter?
Yes or no?

Yigal Amir: Yes, yes.

***How do like them apples? Yigal Amir sorted out the plot, at least the fake
assassination part and the blame shifted to a right wing religious shooter.
Note that he includes Shimon Peres in the plan, a fact that also has turned out to
be proven. No, Yigal Amir is not confessing to murder, he's caught on to what
happened. Still, it must be noted, there has been no subsequent proof of
his charges against Ben Gvir.***

Gazit: I need us to clear all this up. Other than that, I don't need anything.

Yigal Amir: Then I didn't mean it.

Gazit: Then what did you mean?

Yigal Amir: I said this, I said that, I wasn't thinking straight.

Gazit: You said that Itamar Ben Gvir was supposed to arrive, um, with a gun
full of blank bullets that Avishai Raviv gave him. True? That's what you said.

***Yigal Amir told Hirshorn, his previous interrogator that Avishai Raviv
supplied Ben Gvir with a gun loaded with blanks. But, the truth is that
Raviv must have handed Yigal Amir that gun. We know this because we have a
picture of Raviv holding a Baretta. The serial number, blown up, was the
same as that of the gun Yigal Amir allegedly used to shoot Yitzhak Rabin dead. We know it
because, a minute after Yitzhak Rabin's shooting, forty minutes before anyone ever
heard of Yigal Amir, Raviv told reporter Yigal Amir Gilat and numerous members of his
phoney radical group Eyal, that Yigal Amir did the shooting. He knew before
anyone else because he supplied the gun to him. So why is Yigal Amir claiming
Raviv also supplied a gun with blanks to Ben Gvir. Was he also set up to be
a patsy, or a backup to Yigal Amir? Or perhaps Yigal Amir is making the story up to get
the police to look into Raviv. Whatever his motive, Yigal Amir has realized that
he shot blanks at Yitzhak Rabin.***

Yigal Amir: It was just a story. I threw it out as a possibility. Maybe Avishai
isn't what I thought in the courtroom.

Gazit: No. You said what you said, also about the Kahalani brothers, that
they switched bullets or rigged their weapons. Where did you get that idea?

***Yigal Amir is right again.Two months before Yitzhak Rabin's murder, Two brothers Eitan
and Yehodidya Kahalani were arrested by the Shabak and charged with
planning to massacre Arabs. The Shabak claimed they had tampered with the
two M-16s, making them inoperable. In October 1999, I addressed 400
political bigwigs including four Knesset members at a forum in a Herzlia
hotel. I told the gathered that I had the reports from the police
ballistics lab. The two M-16s were in the lab the night before they were
planted, not in the Kahalanis' car but in a car borrowed from a Shabak
snitch named Yves Tibi. Two months later, the Kahalani brothers were
quietly released from prison. And no one thanked me. Yigal Amir is absolutely
right about the frameup of the Kahalanis. How did he know? No one suspected
the Shabak of such a thing until the tactics of the Yitzhak Rabin assassination and
Raviv were exposed much later. Yigal Amir has more than a gut feeling about how
he was set up. Now look at him describe the plot perfectly.***

Gazit: No! You said it. You said they rigged their rifles.

Yigal Amir: I tell the police one thing because they lead  me in certain
directions and it's not what I intend to tell the court.

Gazit: I'm asking if your version is just a theory. Your claim is that the
top echelons of government staged a fake assassination to strengthen their
hold on government by blaming a right wing shooter who really shot blank
bullets. In the end, the intended shooter didn't shoot, but you did.

Yigal Amir: True.

Gazit: And to further the plot, Yitzhak Rabin's bodyguards cleared a path for the
shooter to Yitzhak Rabin?

Yigal Amir: That's why the bodyguards shouted that the bullets were blanks.

***Bingo. Yigal Amir's got it. He worked out the plan and it seems that Gazit
suspects he may be right. The problem is the addition of Ben Gvir. Why add
him? Why doesn't Yigal Amir just say that Raviv gave him the gun with the blanks,
since that is most probably the truth?***

Gazit: So it was supposed to be Ben Gvir. No, let's not mention names.
Wait, Ophir (Gamliel) is coming. (A second policeman enters the room).
Ophir, he thinks I don't understand him, what he's getting to.

Yigal Amir: That's it.

Gamliel: Listen.

Gazit: Talk to Ophir.

Gamliel: You spoke about a facade.

Gazit: Ophir wants to hear. That's why I brought him.

***Like he wasn't watching the whole thing through a two way mirror.***

Gamliel: You brought up other people.

Yigal Amir: I've said nothing. They didn't let me talk to the court or the reporters.

Gamliel: No, I meant here.

Yigal Amir: I asked you to let me talk.

Gamliel: Nu, talk!

Yigal Amir: You're not letting me.

Gamliel: Talk, let's hear.

Yigal Amir: It's too late.

Gazit: What's the story?

Yigal Amir: Wait until my trial.

Gamliel: The court will ask that the police testify to what you told us.
You can't say we're not giving you every opportunity to explain yourself.

Yigal Amir: I don't want to say.

Gamliel: You don't want to say but we know what you want to say. We know
your story.

Yigal Amir: It's not a story.

***Gamliel is finally turning into the bad cop but the strategy fails. Yigal Amir
will lose whatever slight trust he had established with Gazit as soon as
Gamliel turns up the heat and the lies.***

Gamliel: You said there was a Shabak conspiracy and you acciCheap Dental insurancely walked
into the middle of it. You said the bodyguards shouted, ' They're blanks.'
Do you know which ones?

Yigal Amir: I told you why they shouted, 'Blanks.'

Gamliel: And what do you base this theory on?

Yigal Amir: Nothing. It was just a theory. Take it or leave it.

Gamliel: So what's the theory. I don't understand it.

Yigal Amir: One of the bodyguards is dead.

Gazit: No.

Gamliel: Who told you such a thing?

Yigal Amir: Just people.

Gamliel: No one is dead. Now let's listen to your theory.

Gazit: Your theory is based on a dead bodyguard, murdered to keep silent.

Yigal Amir: He asked what I thought.

Gamliel: If I tell you there is no dead bodyguard, then your whole theory
collapses.

Yigal Amir: Yes.

Gamliel: That's what I'm telling you.

***And is Gamliel ever wrong. Yoav Kuriel was buried on the 15th of
November in HaYarkon Cemetary: His plot can be visited at bloc 13, region
5, row 57, number 20. Yigal Amir is right, but underestimated the situation.
Another bodyguard named Tzvi Forster was murdered and buried ten days
before Kuriel. Gamliel's game is to lie to Yigal Amir and force him to abandon
his line of defense.***

  Yigal Amir: Really?

Gamliel: Your line is that the Shabak murdered him to shut him up. That's
what you meant to say.

Yigal Amir: Maybe.

Gamliel: Did you say that here?

Yigal Amir: That's what I said.

Gamliel: Who is Benny Birtz?

Yigal Amir: Just someone.

Gazit: He told me the one who stuck the sticker on Yitzhak Rabin's car was there.
He saw him on television.

Gamliel: Wait a second, you told me it's all connected and the shouts of,
'Blanks,' connects everything together.

Gazit: Suddenly he's very mysterious.

Gamliel: You don't want to talk to us.

Yigal Amir: Okay, I'll talk.

Gamliel: Then talk already.

(Yigal Amir's response missing from film).

Gazit: So nothing is true. It's all based on a story someone told you about
a dead bodyguard.

Yigal Amir: As well.

Gazit: And you mixed the Kahalani story into your salad so everything would
fit together. So, say something.

Yigal Amir: There's no need. This isn't a detective novel.

Gamliel: If the bodyguards were involved, tell me how and I'll investigate.

Yigal Amir: Does it seem right to you that...

Gamliel: So you're not so sure what's right, are you?

Yigal Amir: You said you'd investigate. If you're so sure then you won't, will you?

Gamliel: There's nothing to investigate. No one is dead. Everyone is alive.

Yigal Amir: Fine, if everyone's alive...And your story is truthful.

Gamliel: Now listen. You've just been guessing all along, haven't you? If
not, tell us something you know for sure. Up til now you've been very frank
with us. There's no reason to hide anything more.

Gazit: I don't understand your problem. We'll investigate whatever needs to
be investigated. You explain yourself well. Say what it is you want to say.

***Yigal Amir received information about Kuriel's murder from a trusted source,
one of his lawyers. His attorneys were in a position to know and, from
first hand experience I know, they were privy to profoundly disturbing
information. Yigal Amir will not name which lawyer (at the time he had two
lawyers and their partners working on his defense) and the two
interrogators are becoming increasingly frustrated. They want to know who
knows about Kuriel and Yigal Amir isn't budging. Their tactic is to investigate
nothing for him until he spills the beans on his informants. In time, they
will try to track down the Likud youth who informed him about Ben Gvir. But
Yigal Amir will prove to be as suspicious of their true motives and as stubborn
not to turn into a stool-pigeon.***

Gamliel: It is the truth.

Gazit: I'm telling you, no one was killed.

Yigal Amir: So what, we'll see.

Gazit: So where did you get the story from? From who exactly? You can't
really say you're basing your suspicions on hard facts.

Yigal Amir: Not this question.

Gamliel: So why is it one day you say at full volume that you did it, that
you were alone and now you're inventing a conspiracy?

Yigal Amir: That's the situation. It's all been a facade.

Gazit: A facade by whom? Who wore the mask?

Yigal Amir: I can't say anything.

Gamliel: You can't or won't say? Because you weave conspiracies.

Yigal Amir: Okay.

Gamliel: Not okay. I want to hear your theories.

Yigal Amir: I won't give you what you're after. You don't care.

Gamliel: We care. Our problem is most of what you've said until now checked
out. We've been very impressed with your honesty. You're not a simpleton
and what you've said so far, you believed. Now we want to check out your
new points.

Yigal Amir: I just can't.

Gamliel: You mean you don't want to because you don't know anything. Why
can't you tell? Is it because you know things that can't be revealed or
you're guessing based on logic, like the bodyguards shouting, 'They're
blanks.' You think that doesn't bother us, too? It does, no doubt about it.
I can imagine how much it disturbs you. The question is if there is
something behind it. So far, you've been very open with us, now we need
hard facts from you.

Yigal Amir: I can't relate to that.

Gamliel: How...

Yigal Amir: I can't relate to it.

Gamliel: You can't relate?

Yigal Amir: Can't relate.

Gamliel: Because you're just theorizing.

Yigal Amir: Enough, enough.

Gamliel (laughing): No, it's not enough.

Gazit: You really do want to relate your theory to us.

Gamliel: It would be interesting to hear what you think.

Gazit: Suddenly, he's so mysterious.

***The cops are running out of rehearsed script and are repeating
themselves. Yigal Amir has so far correctly told about the dead bodyguard, the
frameup of the Kahalani brothers, the reason the bodyguards shouted,
'Blanks,' the fact that Raviv supplied the gun with the blanks, that the
bodyguards cleared a path for the fake killer and that the orders came from
Shimon Peres. That is an awful lot to know a month after the murder when it took
the rest of us a good year or two or more before all of Yigal Amir's claims were
proven true. If nothing else, we must ask how Yigal Amir knew so much, so soon.***

Yigal Amir: All I can tell you is I don't say things for nothing. Don't worry
about that.

Gamliel: You're trying to get other people involved. Until now this wasn't
your line. So what changed your mind? What else is behind this conspiracy
of bodyguards and whoever else was in it? We'll all leave here with a
cleaner conscience if you can prove a conspiracy, or you think there was
one because of this or that. Can you with a clean conscience attest to a
conspiracy?  Don't hesitate if you can give me evidence I don't have. Today
they shut you up in court but you'll be home free at your trial to say what
you want. Now what do you want to say?

Yigal Amir: I can't say.

Gazit: What do you mean you can't say?

Yigal Amir: I can't tell you.

Gamliel: You're just using logic, like in the Kahalani brothers story. What
you say makes some sense but they're a different case. We're not going to
investigate it for you. If you have evidence related to your case, we will.
So talk already.

Yigal Amir: Everything that you wrote down about Itamar Ben Gvir is nonsense.

Gamliel: That was your theory.

Yigal Amir: It was nonsense.

***Out of the blue, Yigal Amir retracts his story about Ben Gvir. The retraction
is too sudden for the interrogators not to suspect the motive of this
change of heart and they pursue it. In a flash, Yigal Amir has decided that he
has said too much already for his own good.***

Gamliel: You just don't understand the legal process. If you make a
statement to the police and retract it, the court won't take you at your
word. You have to be consistent. It's for your own good.

Yigal Amir: I didn't say it for my own good.

Gamliel: You're hurting your own cause.

Yigal Amir: I never said anything, nothing. Are you telling me that no bodyguard
is dead?

Gamliel: No.

Yigal Amir: Fine.

Gamliel: So go on as if there was no dead bodyguard.

Gazit: One of your investigators told you that?

Gamliel: Ask your lawyer. He's objective. If he tells me a bodyguard is
dead, I'll investigate.

Yigal Amir: So why are they saying so?

Gamliel: We just told you, there is definitely no dead bodyguard. Does it
matter to you that much?

Yigal Amir: What?

Gazit: That you're told there's no dead bodyguard.

*** But there was a dead Shabak agent, Yoav Kuriel, and Gamliel and Gazit,
as investigators responsible for the most important crime in Israel's
history, must have known it. Are they splitting hairs?: Kuriel wasn't a
Shabak bodyguard but a Shabak agent. Or are they just lying to Yigal Amir? They
may have suspected that Kuriel's death was unrelated to Yitzhak Rabin's murder but
it is not their right to inform Yigal Amir that there was no dead bodyguard when
they knew there was. The motives of Gazit and Gamliel must be considered
suspect or why are they using unscrupulous strategy to get Yigal Amir to name the
sources of his information.***

Gamliel: Yigal, it's your right to think but there's no motive for your
thoughts.

Yigal Amir: I never said anything, not a thing.

Gamliel: Then I can construe that your thinking is based on theory not facts.

Yigal Amir: What was said here, wasn't.

Gazit: Itamar, the bodyguards, the high-level plot, nothing?

Yigal Amir: I explained there, oh, alright.

Gazit: Have we stopped then?

Yigal Amir: He asked what could have been and I answered.

Gazit: So you meant none of it. They were just crumbs of ideas.

Yigal Amir: Yes

Gazit: This is hard to say, but we are at your service.

Yigal Amir: Yes.

Gazit: What you said in the courtroom is unconnected to what you said here?

Yigal Amir: I can say more here.

***Earlier in the day Yigal Amir told the judge and reporters that he never
intended to kill Yitzhak Rabin. He is not prepared to tell Gazit or Gamliel
anything nearly as important and they are beginning to see that their cause
was hopeless. With them, Yigal Amir never retracts his claim that he didn't even
try to kill Yitzhak Rabin. This obstacle was overcome when Yigal Amir was later
instructed to explain he never intended to kill Yitzhak Rabin, just cripple him.
Meanwhile, whatever Yigal Amir was prepared to tell Judge Arbel, he is not going
to tell the police.***

Gazit: Look how mysterious he's become so suddenly. I don't even know you
anymore. This morning I spoke with Ofri. He said he was representing you.
Do you even know who is your lawyer, the one who changed your whole
perspective? There's no connection between these things at all.

Yigal Amir: Now I know what the connection is.

Gazit: I've sat with you before several times. You weren't like this. I
want to know why you're so different now. Why you've suddenly become so
mysterious. Is it just something that came over you?

Yigal Amir: No?

Gazit: I'm not asking these questions for nothing. I consider you reliable,
now I can't understand you. I had no problem with your story as long as you
said you did it.

Yigal Amir: Yes.

Gazit: Now you're throwing out new things and we're obliged to follow them up.

Yigal Amir: Even without me you should be doing it.

Gazit: What?

Yigal Amir: Your conclusions are unconnected to it all.

Gazit. No. You're saying these things in court and we have to find out why.
You throw out these things in court and I have to find out from the media
what you're claiming. You tell me that one day you'll tell everything. I
have to find out what you mean by that. I don't even know what you mean by
a facade. Tell me simply.

Yigal Amir: (yawns)

Gazit: Are you tired?

Yigal Amir: (yawns)

Gazit: We can talk to you tomorrow if you want, but it would be better to
do some explaining now. You think you're the only one without explanations?
We can find explanations for everything you think. If you've been just
saying these things for nothing, then tell us.

Gamliel: I have one question.

Yigal Amir: What time is it now?

Gamliel: Five thirty. When you want to eat, join us. Now you told a story
about a bus ride from your house to the rally on the night of the murder
where you met an acquaintance who told you about Ben Gvir.

Yigal Amir: Truth and nothing but the truth.

Gamliel: Truth and nothing but the truth. That means you confirm the story
on the bus.

Yigal Amir: Yes.

Gamliel: Did you see him acciCheap Dental insurancely or do you always travel together?
That would mean he lives in Herzlia.

Yigal Amir: Raanana.

Gamliel: Raanana.

Yigal Amir: I didn't say anything.

Gazit: He already told me.

Gamliel: What did he say?

Gazit: It was a guy from Likud Youth In Raanana. He gave me his name. What
was it?

Yigal Amir: I don't want to give the name.

Gazit: You already told me.

Yigal Amir: Only the first name. I think it was Gilad, I'm not sure.

Gamliel: He must have known you or he wouldn't have brought up the subject.

Gazit: He was a young boy.

Gamliel: Someone who knew you.

Gazit: You said Margalit knew him as well.

***Yigal Amir has already incriminated Margalit Har Shefi, as we shall soon see.
The police are building their own right wing conspiracy and want as many
people within it as possible. If this Likud youth didn't report Ben Gvir's
intentions to the police, then he was as guilty as Har Shefi was of not
preventing the murder of Yitzhak Rabin. But unlike Har Shefi, Yigal Amir told Officer
Hirshorn that the youth did report Ben Gvir's plans to the police. The
policemen are most likely not trying to help Yigal Amir's case but the
government's for a right wing, religious conspiracy. And Yigal Amir has caught on.***

Yigal Amir: Maybe I did. Listen, I don't want...

Gamliel: What don't you want?

Yigal Amir: that...

Gamliel: But you're saying this is the truth. This is what happened on the bus.

Gazit: That means you happened to meet him and he just happened to tell you
this story.

Gamliel: If you won't give his name, at least tell exactly what he said.

Yigal Amir: He heard that Itamar Ben Gvir wanted to kill Yitzhak Rabin at the rally.

Gamliel: So what did you tell him?

Yigal Amir: Can't you find the bus driver who might have seen us together?

Gamliel: Who was this youth?

Yigal Amir: (groans)

Gazit: Don't play games. We're trying to find people and you're groaning.

Gamliel: Were you known to anyone else on the bus?

Gazit: I understood from you that you didn't see him again, that you
avoided him.

Yigal Amir: Yes.

Gamliel: Now explain logically why he told you the story and no one else we
can find.

Yigal Amir: I'm not saying anything to incriminate someone else.

Gamliel: What could you incriminate him on?

Yigal Amir: It doesn't matter.

Gamliel: Not true.

Yigal Amir: I've already turned the state upside down.

Gamliel: Not true. You haven't turned anything upside down.

***Yigal Amir uses the word "hafakhti" and I translated it turned upside down. It
also means to cause a revolution. Now does Yigal Amir mean he turned the state
upside down because he murdered Yitzhak Rabin, or because he was blamed for the
murder? Look at his next line of thinking.***

Yigal Amir: They've investigated every rabbi in the country.

Gamliel: Don't exaggerate.

Yigal Amir: No exaggeration.

Gamliel: All in all we spoke to a very few rabbis, not what you think.

Yigal Amir: The reign of terror against them has started. (Yigal Amir used Arabic word
"alayhom" to describe terror).

Gamliel - Alayhom?

Yigal Amir: Yes.

***Yigal Amir has caught on to the whole plan; set up a religious patsy for
Yitzhak Rabin's murder and start a reign of repression against the religious
community and their rabbis. He knows that is what the policemen are aiming
for and he's testing them. They do not fail him."

Gazit: Hagai told me specifically that you went to a certain rabbi to get
his blessings.

Yigal Amir: Not true.

Gazit: Ask Hagai if he said it.

Yigal Amir: What does Hagai know about this?

Gazit: You tell me.

Yigal Amir: No, I know the rabbis permitted it. I hear it on the radio, read it
in the papers. But I never went to a rabbi to ask.

Gamliel: They said in their classes?

Yigal Amir: No. There was no need. The persecutor judgement was known.

Gamliel: You wanted verification.

Yigal Amir: Didn't need it. Yitzhak Rabin fell in the category.

Gamliel: And I understand you checked that out first.

Yigal Amir: Me?

Gamliel: Yes, you.

Yigal Amir: And that's how I arrived at my conclusion...

Gamliel: You arrived at your own conclusion. The question is if you had help.

***Yigal Amir riled Gamliel and got his answer. He is out to prove that the
religious community and their rabbis murdered Yitzhak Rabin. His only purpose in
interrogating Yigal Amir was to get him to change his testimony about a
government conspiracy or to disprove it. Yigal Amir was right from the beginning:
all the interrogators were interested in was wrapping up the government's
version of events. Yigal Amir plays along with his inquisitors as he was always
supposed to. He reverts to form and victimizes Har Shefi. It isn't easy to
understand Yigal Amir's sudden reversal of form, but all talk of  a
government/Shabak conspiracy disappears and the rabbis are now to blame.
This is what he was supposed to say all along and we can surmise that he
knew these cops weren't there to help him. He gave up telling the truth.***

Yigal Amir: No help but I was influenced.

Gazit: Not enough, be more specific. We understand from Hagai that you went
to a rabbi and you yourself said that Margalit went to her rabbi in Bet El.

Yigal Amir: She wanted to. She didn't trust my judgement and said she'd see her
rabbi. I told her to ask him.

Gamliel: Did she get an answer?

Yigal Amir: She told me no.

Gamliel: What, no?

Yigal Amir: He put her off, didn't give a straight answer.

Gamliel: So you felt vindicated.

Yigal Amir: I told her to ask and she'd find out it wasn't forbidden. She wanted
to prove the opposite and I told her that he'd say it was allowed.

Gamliel: But you got a less certain answer in the end.

Yigal Amir: Another rabbi would have said it's a blessing. I didn't need to find
one to know it.

***And now the Shabak agent Yigal Amir returns to form. That Yigal Amir was, at least,
a Shabak asset, has been testified to by thousands of people who saw him at
work with Avishai Raviv from the autumn of 1992 on. Their job was to
criminalize the religious community and the Jews of Judea, Samaria and
Gaza. The government had promised the PLO their homes and in order to
assure that there would be no sympathy for their forced removal from them,
the Shabak's Jewish Department, initially headed by Carmi Gillon, organized
a campaign of sting operations against them, culminating in the Yitzhak Rabin
assassination. Yigal Amir's duty was to smear the rabbis. Checking the timing
carefully, not one rabbi ever brought up the concepts of persecutor, or a
death judgement for tyrants until Yigal Amir arrived at their yeshivas and raised
the issues. Yigal Amir knows precisely what the plan is and is now feeding the
cops what they want to hear. They think they've finally broken him.
     For the final five minutes of the interrogation, the interrogators
once again try to get Yigal Amir to name names: which rabbi blessed his actions,
who was the Likud Youth on the bus, who told him about the dead bodyguard,
until Yigal Amir shouts,"Stop harassing me. This is like a Shabak interrogation."
     Now how would he know that? Yigal Amir's crime was a police matter, and
though the Shabak oversaw the interrogations, supposedly he was not
questioned by the Shabak. Apparently he was.
     That morning, Yigal Amir made a break for freedom. He told the media and the
judge at his hearing that he didn't kill Yitzhak Rabin, in fact he never even tried
to. When the judge refused to hear him out, his fate was sealed. He tried
to tell the truth to the police and realized they had closed the book on
him. His best hope lay in cooperating with the Shabak.
      This taped interrogation proves that Yigal Amir, up until Dec. 3/95, did
not confess to murdering Yitzhak Rabin and did try to expose the conspiracy. It is
a very different tape than the ones shown Israeli television of Yigal Amir
confessing and showing no regret.
      So it has been hidden from the public. But I'll show it and two other
tapes of Yigal Amir's police interrogations to any group which invites me. The
issue isn't justice for Yitzhak Rabin; it's saving our nation from those still in
power who murdered him. They are murdering all of us now and must be
stopped. They only way to do so is through Yitzhak Rabin.

end

     If anyone can help organize, finance or wishes to participate in a
rally opposite the office of Elyakim Rubinstein, the state
attorney-general, on November 4th to demand the reopening of the Yitzhak Rabin
murder investigation, please contact me.

August 16, 2001 - HOW THINGS REALLY WORK ...AGAIN

      We had hoped that Shimon Peres'  seemingly irrational appointment of
Carmi Gillon as ambassador to Denmark would open up his role in the Yitzhak Rabin
assassination. So far, that has not happened, but it will. Instead, and
from the most unexpected source, Gillon's role in the planning and
execution of the Hebron massacre of February 1994 is being raised. Read
what Dr. Linda Efroni writes in the highly influential but staid Israeli
business daily, Globes:

"Besides being head of the Shabak, we must recall that Gillon was a central
figure in the massacre at the Cave Of The Patriarchs. It was decided that
the Shabak fell asleep at the wheel in this case but, maybe not. In either
case, the investigating committee headed by then Supreme Court President,
Meir Shamgar, cleaned up Gillon's responsibility...
"Once out of service, Gillon was taken care of with a job as chairman of
the Shimon Peres Center For Peace at a salary equal to that of a bank CEO. There
is no more preventing discussion of the dangerous connection between Shimon Peres
and the government. As Foreign Minister today, Shimon Peres continues to take care
of Gillon. Why did he appoint this klutz with no diplomatic background and
a long history of failure to be the Danish ambassador? And why does the
government back this disastrous appointment, one which endangers Israel's
reputation in Europe? It is more than obvious that Gillon has the
information to grasp quite a few politicians by their tender parts."

     At last, the mainstream media has raised Gillon's role in the Hebron
massacre and the likelihood that he is blackmailing Shimon Peres and other
politicians over the truth of the slaughter. The Israeli public was
informed that an extremist, Dr. Baruch Goldstein entered the mosque in
Hebron's Cave Of The Patriarchs alone and massacred 51 Arab worshippers.
But that is not the conclusion one would reach after reading the records of
the Shamgar Commission's inquiry into the event.
     For one thing, no witness, Arab or Jew saw a lone shooter in the
mosque. But that's just the start. The three soldiers guarding the entrance
to the Cave complex testified that Goldstein entered at 4:45 AM carrying an
M-16. Shamgar concluded that Goldstein arrived at 5:20, carrying a Glilon
assault rifle.
     Goldstein entered the mosque with two soldiers. They threw grenades
and shot into the crowd, then escaped the mosque, locking the door behind
them, thus trapping Goldstein inside against the panicked mob. At this
point, an Arab on the commission, Judge Zuabi noted, "Then there was a
conspiracy. Goldstein couldn't have locked the door from the outside if he
was inside. He would have needed help for that."
      There is much more. Readers are advised to order the full commission
protocols from the Ministry of Justice. The sum total of eye-witness
testimonies prove that Dr. Goldstein was a patsy who did not murder anyone.
      But a patsy for who? Carmi Gillon was head of the Jewish Department
of the Shabak, based in Hebron, at the time yet somehow was not called on
by Shamgar's commission to testify. That was easily arranged since Gillon's
brother Ilan was the court registrar who decided on the witness list.
      Thanks to Shimon Peres' insane decision to appoint Gillon the Danish
ambassador, even and finally, Gillon's suspected role as planner and
executioner of the Hebron massacre is emerging in the mainstream Israeli
press.

The Har Shefi Dirty Deal Revealed

       We knew that Margalit Har Shefi's incredibly damaging saga was based
on some kind of filthy agreement. By insisting that she did not know that
Yigal Amir would murder Yitzhak Rabin, Har Shefi set the truth back years and landed
herself in prison for a short stay. While incarcerated, her Knesset member
uncle Benny Elon said not a word about the injustice his niece was
suffering. Somehow, Har Shefi's supporters missed the significance of his
silence.
       Har Shefi's attorney was Elon's far-left brother Yosef. He planned
the legal strategy that assured Har Shefi's deceit and imprisonment.
Meanwhile, brother Benny sits on the Committee To Elect Judges. So guess
what?; Thanks to the newspaper Hatsofe, we learned that Benny's committee
has decided to appoint Menachem Elon a judge. Har Shefi's role in wrecking
the truthful search for Yitzhak Rabin justice has been rewarded.
      However, the search continues despite her attempts to sabotage it.
Recall the previous article from this author. An eye-witness inside Ichilov
Hospital saw Shimon Peres' commanding role in the murder and small details of his
testimony are being confirmed. He claimed Prof. Gabi Barabash and
journalist Eitan Haber arrived at the hospital together, having been at the
same party. The witness was right on the money. Now, another correspondent
has provided the name of the party's host:

"Barabash and Haber together is correct (they came from Ido Disenchik's
home where Yitzhak Rabin was supposed to show up too). Since they arrived
together, it was Barabash who showed the way to Haber inside Ichilov.
Haber's testimony that 'he wandered aimlessly' through the corridors is
Alice in Wonderland."

    Even Har Shefi and her two uncles can't stop the truth from marching on.

More on Spain and the Jesuits

    Also in the previous posting was an eye-witness expose of the role
of  William Owens, Admiral of the Sixth Fleet during the Persian Gulf War.
If recalled, Admiral Owens (CFR) let slip his desire to drop missiles on
Israel. I received numerous letters insisting Owens would not have had the
authority to issue such an order in contravention of US policy. Well, who
says the US is running things in the Middle East? The White House has an
ultimate commander of its own and his headquarters are in Spain. We, of
course are referring to the Jesuit-trained King Juan Carlos of Spain.
        For those who can't accept that little old Spain is planning its
latest inquisition of Jews, recall that King Juan Carlos is long abdicated
and supposedly has no more than a figurehead political role. If so, kindly
explain the following facts:
      I will add my explanations between three stars ***. Now let's see how
things really work:


Sharon: Israel ready for painful concessions for peace
Ariel Sharon (L) shakes hands with his Turkish counterpart Bulent Ecevit in
Ankara on Wednesday.
http://www.img.com.tr/article.asp?docid=824 (not working)
April 30 /01Prime Minister Ecevit visits Spain
The Spanish King Juan Carlos also received Ecevit, during his visit short,
in addition to his bilateral meeting with the Spanish Prime Minister.

Noting that they evaluated the bilateral relations with their political,
social and cultural dimensions during their contacts in Spain, Ecevit said
that they decided to activate the joint action plan signed earlier.

Ecevit said that they focused on various cooperation methods to benefit
from the investment opportunities in the two countries and to further
improve economic and commercial relations.

***Spain has, at the least, a mediating role in Israeli-Turkish relations
but a far greater one between Israel and her neighbors. Recall that after
the Persian Gulf War, the Bush/Baker team forced Israel to make grand
concessions at a conference held in Madrid. Well, the "peacemakers" of
Israel and the US are finagling to arrange a repeat conference under
Spanish auspices:"



All roads not only lead to Rome but also to ......
The Beilin plan.

  *** Now look what happened within just two days.***

Source: CNN Fri Aug 10, 2001
Statement by U.S. President George W. Bush: Bush condemns Jerusalem suicide
bombing
.....The United States remains committed to implementation in all its
elements of the Mitchell Committee Report, which provides a path to return
to peace negotiations based on United Nations Security Council Resolutions
242, 338 and the Madrid Conference. To get to Mitchell the parties need to
resume effective security cooperation and work together to stop terrorism
and violence.
Source: Ha'aretz Sun Aug 12, 2001
Shimon Peres gets green light to talk to PA; Beilin plans ''second Madrid
conference'' this October
Former justice minister Yossi Beilin, meanwhile, is embarking on a new
diplomatic initiative of his own - convening a "second Madrid conference"
this October, on the tenth anniversary of the 1991 conference that kicked
off the peace process. Several European countries have expressed
enthusiastic support for the idea, as has UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan
and even some U.S. State Department officials. Yesterday, Beilin went to
Cairo to try to sell his plan to the Egyptians.

***Now look who immediately flies to Damascus after the Syrian president
exchanges a few words with King Juan Carlos.***

PLO secretary arrives in Damascus Sunday.
Today's J. Post article Arafat invited to Damascus.

Bashar al-Assad on Saturday received a message from the Spanish King Juan
Carlos.

Mahmoud Abbas in Damascus
Syria-Palestine, Politics, 8/6/2001
The secretary of the PLO executive committee Mahmoud Abbas ( Abu Mazin)
arrived in Damascus on Sunday. In an arrival statement to the press, Abu
Mazin said that his visit to Damascus falls in the course of consultation
with the Syrian leadership on vision towards the future. He added " I will
brief the Syrian leadership with the current developments in the occupied
Arab territories."

09:35) Report: Assad invites Arafat to visit

Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat has been officially invited to
visit Syria, according to Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen), Arafat's deputy,
Israel Radio reports.

***So what are we told Juan Carlos said to Assad which sent the PLO's Nabil
Shaat scurrying to Damascus? Then we ask, what did Juan Carlos REALLY tell
Assad?***

A message to al-Assad from Spanish King
Syria-Spain, Politics, 8/6/2001
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Saturday received a message from the
Spanish King Juan Carlos. The message was delivered to the foreign minister
Farouk al-Shara during his meeting with the Spanish ambassador in Damascus
Javier Navoro. Talks, during the meeting, dealt with bilateral relations
between the two countries.

There is still room for optimism, Palestinian Planning and International
Cooperation Minister Nabil Shaath told Jerusalem Post Radio this afternoon.

***Now, let us look at how Shaat coordinated his Spanish orders with then
Israeli Foreign Minister, and Juan Carlos' spy in the Knesset, Shlomo Ben
Ami.***

Arafat fails to get backing to declare state

Meanwhile, Acting Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami, currently in Spain, said
that if Arafat does go ahead and declare his state on September 13 it would
likely cause "irreversible damage" to the peace process.

Ben-Ami's comment came during a meeting with Spanish Foreign Minister Josep
Pique in Barcelona, on the second leg of a five-day journey to Turkey,
Spain, France, Italy, and the Vatican to counter Arafat's globetrotting
efforts in search of international support.

Ben-Ami warned at a press conference yesterday that Israel might take its
own unilateral measures to counteract the declaration of a state by the
Palestinians.

"When someone breaks the rules of the game, it is possible that the other
part takes unilateral measures as well," he said.

Ben-Ami asked Pique to use his influence in Spain and in the European Union
to get Arafat to display a more "pragmatic approach" on the negotiations.

"You should warn Arafat about losing an historic opportunity that may not
return," he said.

Pique, who met earlier in the day with PA Planning Minister Nabil Shaath,
said he would work inside the European Union to ensure that it coordinates
its position on a Palestinian state with the US.

At a press conference in Madrid yesterday after meeting Javier Solana, the
European Union's foreign policy chief, Ben-Ami, a former ambassador to
Spain, said he would like Spanish King Juan Carlos to play a mediating role
with Arab countries in peace talks focusing on the future of Jerusalem.

"I have asked Pique to see if it is possible for King Juan Carlos to use
his good relationships with some Arab countries to make the parties move
closer about Jerusalem," Ben-Ami said.

Ben-Ami said the two sides had an historic opportunity to reach peace, but
he played down the prospects for a new summit with the Palestinians.

He had raised the possibility in Barcelona of "a short, decisive" meeting
before September 13.

"Our peace strategy leads to the possibility that perhaps, some time in the
month of September, possibly at the end of the month, we will be ready to
go to a summit in which we would be able to make decisions and reach the
end of the conflict," Ben-Ami said.

***If you think Juan Carlos is only interested in Israel and its neighbors,
look at how he spreads his talons throughout the Middle East.***

June 29, 2001
KING JUAN CARLOS RECEIVES PRINCE SALMAN AT THE OUTSET OF HIS OFFICIAL VISIT
TO SPAIN.
THE SPANISH MONARCH: SAUDI ARABIA AND SPAIN CAN PLAY A ROLE IN CONTRIBUTING
TO REACHING A JUST, COMPREHENSIVE AND LASTING PEACE IN THE REGION.
EMIR OF RIYADH REGION: THE NATURE OF OUR LINKS IS THE PRODUCT OF THE TWO
PEOPLES' MORAL AND THE CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL HERITAGE.
King Juan Carlos I of Spain announced that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and
Spain can play a growing role to contribute to reaching a just,
comprehensive and lasting peace for which all peoples in the region are
longing.
Just a few paragraphs:
''The intimate friendship which binds our two families is not but a true
picture that reflects the distinguished relations which binds our two
peoples and countries, and which draw its roots from history.''
Prince Salman Ibn Abdul Aziz, Emir of Riyadh region, had arrived in Madrid
for several days official visit, and was received at the airport by Crown
Prince of Spain Don Felipe De Borbon, who is also the Prince of Asturias,
Fernando De Almansa, Chief of the Royal Palace, along with the Director of
Foreign Policy at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the military corps in
Madrid.
In an address during a banquet, King Juan Carlos of Spain has affirmed that
the current visit of Prince Salman Ibn Abdul Aziz, Emir of Riyadh region to
Spain, will strengthen bilateral relations and enhance cooperation in
various fields between the two countries. King Juan Carlos said ''the visit
of the Emir of Riyadh region to Spain, reflects the existing strong ties
between the two countries.''
The King of Spain asked Prince Salman to convey his best wishes and
greetings to the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, King Fahd Ibn Abdul Aziz.
''Spanish companies and investors are following up with great interest the
opportunities that are available in Saudi Arabia,'' King Juan Carlos said.
With regard to the peace process in the Middle East region, King Juan
Carlos said that Spain is following with great care and interest the
difficult stage which the peace process is witnessing, but he added that it
seems there is a little hope following eight months of violence.

''The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Spain can play a larger role in
contributing to reaching a just, comprehensive and lasting peace for which
all peoples in the region are longing,'' King Juan Carlos said.
King Juan Carlos also said that after six months Spain will preside the EU
and there will be a lot of fields in which opportunities for enhancing and
intensifying cooperation and relations would be opened.


***And while the retired king makes his promises to Syria, the PLO, Egypt,
and Saudi Arabia to take care of Israel the way they'd like to see it done,
he pulls the blinders over the Jews.***


The Delegation to the King Juan Carlos
THE KING OF SPAIN RECEIVES TOP REPRESENTATIVES
FROM THE SECOND ASSEMBLY OF EUROPEAN JEWISH COMMUNITIES.
Another important issue for his Majesty is Israel's situation, he hoped
that peace will soon reach that area.
All the attendants at the reception stated how interesting and important it
was for them that the King had received them and listened to their message
and concerns.

Details of the successful gathering
Both the King statements and the Cardinal words, were symbolic signs of the
desire to reconcile with the Jewish people and further that explain the
reasons ECJC decided to hold the second GA in Spain.

***And that is how things really work in the Middle East.***

end

August 6, 2001 - SNOWBALL EFFECT, TIDAL WAVE

Our previous message included some terrifying information imparted by
a former member of the American Joint Chiefs of Staff, Col. Al Cuppett. The
following snowball effect led to a personal visit by a former US Navy
submarine sailor with even more important information about, "a much higher
ranking former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff," Admiral William Owens.
     Owens, a four star Admiral, high ranking member of the Council On
Foreign Relations (CFR), a Rhodes scholar, was the Vice Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff in the early 1990s. In 1990, he was a temporary Five
Star Admiral while commanding the Sixth Fleet during the Persian Gulf War.
     "The last time I met him," recalls the visitor, "I caught him on his
cellphone negotiating the sale of Motorola's Irridium global satellite
network to the American government. He is now the CEO of Teledesek, a
corporation 25% owned by Saudi Arabia, which is building a worldwide
satellite-operated cellular network. He assured me that within five years,
every person on the planet will have access to the network. I expressed
deep misgivings about the likely misuse of this cellular monopoly but he
promised me, 'It'll be good for everyone. Even the poorest peasant will be
able to afford to join in. Calls to anywhere will cost about three cents."
      The discussion digressed to the current use of cellphones in Israel
to locate PLO terrorists and Jewish settlement leaders targeted for
assassination. Any hit squad can ambush its quarry to within a few meters
if he is carrying his mobile phone and that has led to a huge percentage of
successful assassinations in the past year. Even if the phone is off, a
hidden passive power source can send out location signals. The fact that
Saudi Arabia is a one quarter owner of Owens' upcoming worldwide
surveillance dream, will become a nightmare for Israeli security.
      "Bill Owens was the skipper of my submarine twenty years ago. All the
crew viewed him as a likeable, caring officer. He decided that he'd like to
recommend me for officer training and I agreed to take the course if it was
offered to me. Before he submitted his recommendation to Washington, he
invited me for a private discussion in his quarters.
      "After a bit of small talk he asked me, 'If the US turned on Israel
like it should, would you be prepared to launch a Subroc against Israel?' A
Subroc is a nuclear tipped rocket. I told him that it would never happen.
He answered that it very well might happen. I replied that God wouldn't let
it happen. That was the end of the conversation. He dismissed me and I
wasn't recommended for officer training.
      "But over time, we have kept in touch. He is not a man to tell me
more than what he thinks I ought to know. Still, he told me some things
that Israelis should understand already. The most bothersome concerned the
position of the Sixth Fleet during the Persian Gulf War. You would think it
would have been anchored off Saudi Arabia or steaming toward Kuwait. It
wasn't. Admiral Owens never took his fleet out of the Mediterranean. I
asked him why and he answered that his ships were protecting the region
from enemy interdiction in the war. I asked which enemy and he replied,
'Libya, for instance.'"
      Needless to say, the answer was unsatisfactory. Libya does not and
did not have the capability to tackle the allied forces patched together by
George Bush, Colin Powell and their NWO cronies. Even if it could make
trouble, the whole Sixth Fleet wasn't needed to prevent it. However, part
of the fleet was anchored off Haifa, a long way from Libya, and Iraq for
that matter.
      Israel was ordered not to react militarily to Iraqi Scud attacks. The
politician in charge of the operation was Defense Minister Moshe Arens, a
member of the CFR's Middle East Advisory Committee. Every effort was made
to keep Israel a helpless sitting duck, including rigging polls to show
most Israelis were in favor of restraint no matter how many missiles fell
on them.
     Arens played ball, the visitor concluded, not because he betraying
Israel but because Admiral Owens was sailing off his coast and if Israel
dared defend itself, he would have launched that Subroc against the
country. Haifa could have been flattened in a matter of seconds if Arens or
Prime Minister ShYigal Amir dared defy the CFR's Sixth Fleet Admiral, William A.
Owens.
     "The last time we met," continued the visitor, "he almost revealed
something just as powerful. He told me, 'If Yitzhak Rabin wasn't murdered, we might
have had peace. He had a special relationship with President Assad of Syria
and he holds all the cards in the region. Yitzhak Rabin's death put an end to our
best diplomatic shot.'
      "I said to him, 'You know the convicted assassin didn't do it, and
the ties to the murder run through Shimon Peres and France?' His answer was
succinct; 'I saw Yitzhak Rabin's bodyguards pull back.' Then he refused to comment
further.
      But someone else did this week.

An Eye-Witness to the Yitzhak Rabin Assassination

     I gave six lectures this week and reached about 1500 people. That is
why a tidal wave of new information was imparted to me. The people who
spoke with me noted the recent death of Shimon Peres's chauffeur, who collapsed
while playing backgammon with friends. One more early death of someone who
got too close to Shimon Peres. A few noted that Yigal Amir's judge, Edmund Levy
was appointed to the Supreme Court. Others observed that the country's
dirty judge Meir Shamgar released his report on the Kishon River navy
cancer deaths and, as expected, not one officer was held responsible for
the agony.
     And a few people donated inside information, such as:

     * "The funeral director who arranged the burial of Yoav Kuriel, the
Shabak officer murdered after Yitzhak Rabin's assassination, was Israel Ehrlich. He
lives in Bnai Brak. He has been warned not to talk and has suffered very
serious harassment, especially at the hands of the income tax authority, as
a hint of what's to come if he speaks. But when the day comes that the
murderers are prosecuted, you have the name of the person to subpoena to
testify as to what exactly happened to Kuriel."

     * "I am related by marriage to a senior Shabak officer named Reuven
Gilad. I gave him your material and he studied it for hours. He told me,
"This demands a serious investigation. I didn't know all this and that
means, neither did most of the Shabak. This isn't how my unit operates.
There must be people breaking all the rules and they should be identified
and interrogated."

     Now the most serious incident of all; someone who was at Ichilov
Hospital when Yitzhak Rabin arrived had something to say. Something, extremely
important. What I could verify, assures me that I had a truthful
conversation. Nonetheless, I will add some commentary to put the dialog in
context. Naturally, I will do what is necessary to hide the witness' identity.

     "To begin, there were people in Ichilov who saw what was going on that
night. One who I caught was a journalist who later became an advisor to a
well-known politician. He hid in a vent and I saw him but didn't say anything.
     "Ten minutes before Yitzhak Rabin arrived, anyone in the ER was ordered
removed. I only saw Dr. Surkin and he objected rather violently to being
thrown out, protesting that anyone who tried it would have to kill him
first. However, he gave in and only went back after Yitzhak Rabin was put on the
table in there.
     "He examined Yitzhak Rabin and while doing so, Shimon Peres, Yossi Sarid and
someone I didn't recognize stood outside in the hall. Dr. Surkin emerged
and told Shimon Peres that Yitzhak Rabin was too ripped up to be saved. Shimon Peres broke out in
a huge grin and started joking with Sarid."

      After almost six years of research, I had never heard of Dr. Surkin,
nor did anyone place Sarid inside the hospital. So I did some
investigating. Dr. Surkin exists, lives in Raanana and is in charge of
Ichilov's ER dept. today. The information does check out.

     "Then Prof. (Gabi) Barabash arrived with the journalist Eitan Haber.
They were both at the same party and drove to the hospital together. Prof.
Barabash went into the operating theater and examined Yitzhak Rabin. He came out a
few minutes later and told Shimon Peres that Yitzhak Rabin's condition had improved.
     "The grin on Shimon Peres' face disappeared in an instant and he went crazy.
He picked up his cellular phone and barked orders into it. He started
yelling at people to do things. He ordered Haber to go into the ER and
collect anything that belonged to Yitzhak Rabin.
     "That's all I saw. I was terrified I'd be noticed and I got out of
there after that."

     Eitan Haber testified to the Shamgar Commission that after hearing of
the shooting, he rushed to Ichilov, ran to the operating theatre and
collected Yitzhak Rabin's possessions. For years I've asked how Haber would have
had the knowledge and authority to know where the theater was and actually
enter it. His arrival from a party together with Barabash answers the
questions perfectly.
     I believe the previous eye-witness account is accurate.
     And I don't know what to do about it.

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